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ph and finger (and how to use them from Eudora)

   
 
     
Using ph
  Can't find your copy of the UIC faculty/staff phone directory? No problem. You can find most of what you'd want to know about UIC faculty, staff, and departments from the UIC online ph server. The ph server is there whenever and wherever you need it, and unlike the printed phonebook, its database is updated every night. There's also important information in the ph database that's not available in the printed directory, including basic information about UIC students and the URLs for people's personal World Wide Web home pages. The command used to query the ph server is gopher://ns.uic.edu:105/2. The ph command is available on CMS and on the ACCC UNIX machines, and is also available in Eudora.

For example, if you wanted to look me up, jud* sachs would work just fine. Of course, just sachs would work too, but there are five Sachses in the database. That's not really a problem, but don't try using smith to look up someone named "Smith"! The ph server will tell you there's too many entries to print and won't return anything.

Those of you who know me as Judy might be tempted to try using judy sachs, but that wouldn't work, because I'm in the database as "Judith". The jud* means "jud" followed by anything (including nothing!); it matches either "Judy" or "Judith".

 
     
Using finger
  The finger command on many UNIX systems offers information about people and their computer accounts. You send finger requests to a specific machine on which you know (or expect) that the person you're interested in has an account. For example, you can finger me at my account on tigger:
finger judygs@tigger.uic.edu
Here judygs is my login id on tigger, and tigger.cc.uic.edu is the machine my account is on.

You can also finger anyone at UIC at the generic UIC node name uic.edu; in this case, finger will return the individual's ph phonebook entry.

 
     
Which should you use, ph or finger?
  Both ph and finger return information about people and their computer accounts; when should you use one or the other?

The function of the ph command is pretty much standardized -- it's a telephone directory lookup command, and you can depend on it giving you the type of information you'd find in a phonebook -- name, address, telephone number, and email address.

There are no official standards on what finger should return, though some things are pretty common -- name, login id, and email address. And if the person/account you're fingering has a .project or a .plan file, finger also normally displays those files. Though the latter is not true at UIC; as a security measure, we've modified finger on tigger and icarus so that it returns only ph information.

So, which should you use? At UIC, the answer is, it doesn't matter.

In general, however, you'll probably want to use ph when you want general information about a particular person (particularly here at UIC), and to use finger when you want specific information about the person's account(s).

 
     
How to use ph and finger from Eudora
  In Eudora, the ph and finger dialog box is in the "Special" menu. Select "Window" from the menu bar, select "Directory Services".

Setup for ph: If you don't find UIC ph as a choice in for "Configured Servers" (on the right), then double-click Ph from the Protocols box (on the top right). This will open the Modify Database dialog box. Type UIC ph (or something else if you wish) in the "Server name" field and ns.uic.edu (the name of the UIC ph server) in the "Host name" field in the General tab, then click OK.

Setup for finger: You send finger requests to a specific machine on which you know (or expect) that the person you're interested in has an account. You will probably have to enter the machine name before you can finger it. Double-click  Finger in the Protocols box (top right). Type the name of that machine in the "Host name" field (the machine-independent node name uic.edu works for all faculty and staff at UIC) and type a name for the machine in "Server name" (say, "finger machinename"), then click OK.

Using Directory Services: Click to place a check mark in the box beside the server(s) that you want your query to go to "Configured Servers"  under "Databases" (on the right).

Type a netid or all or part of the name of the person or department you want to look up in the "Query" field then click the Start button.

The result is in the box at the bottom left. (If you've searched more than one server, double-click on the server name in the box at the top left to display the results from that server.)

 


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