Topics of the day:

1. Re: Self-ligating brackets
2. Re: Self-ligating brackets
3. Re: Self-ligating brackets
4. Basic research on micro implant
5. Minolta Dimage A1 intra oral photos
6. Ad:YAG Laser after debonding
7. Powerbook
8. ESCO - The Electronic Study Club for Orthodontics

From: "Dr C" <>
To: "The Electronic Study Club for Orthodontics" <ESCO@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Self-ligating brackets
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 08:54:15 -0600

Dear Group,

After a short period of time away, I have rejoined the group and am happy to be back. I rejoined about the same time my next door neighbor, Dr. Paul Thomas in top hat, moved to England. Coincidence? I don't know. Anyway, I have been using self ligating brackets over the past 18 months and really enjoy them. I have two questions for the group. One, the reduced friction in the system allows the arch wires to "travel" much more than the conventional systems. I have tried V bends and split tube stops but wonder if there is an easier, more efficient way to keep wires in place. Two, in the past when I closed space and wanted to keep in closed I tied a ligature wire beneath the brackets and inserted my arch wire. I then tied the arch wire with O rings. This does not work with the self ligating bracket I currently use (GAC mini InOvation) as it makes it difficult to open and close the "door" with the ligature wire in place. Has anyone experienced this problem and come up with a good solution?

Thank you,

John Christensen Durham, NC

We currently use "archwire stops" from ALL STAR ORTHODONTICS1-866-314-0804.They come in 2 diameters and 2 lengths for small round and larger rectangular arches.They are slipped onto the archwire and then crimped interproximally to prevent the arch from sliding more than an interproximal distance.It is important to place the stops mesial to the crowding to allow the wire to work out the rotations.


From: "Lively Orthodontics, P.A." <>
To: "The Electronic Study Club for Orthodontics" <ESCO@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Self-ligating brackets
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 18:09:21 -0500

Dear Paul:

Tthis has turned into a great discussion and it appears that all topics have been covered.  Not to give the shortest answer of all, but is it possible, even though it was dead soft wire, that the wire had some activation present when being bonded.  It appears as though this tooth had a bit of offset present with the original bonding of the lingual wire.  The wire may have been pushed to the tooth while the composite was being light cured.  BTW, the finished result looks great.

With warmest personal regards,

Mark David Lively, DMD

Lively Orthodontics , P.A.

Stuart, FL 34994


From: "Lively Orthodontics, P.A." <>
To: "The Electronic Study Club for Orthodontics" <ESCO@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Self-ligating brackets
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 18:09:21 -0500

Dear John:

We like to heat treat our wires and cinch them.  If this does not help, just use the tie backs from the posted wires that you buy when using the Damon2 system.  This should help control any space opening problems that you have experienced.

With warmest personal regards,

Mark David

Lively Lively Orthodontics, P.A.


Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:29:29 -0500
From: "jean marc retrouvey" <>
Subject: Basic research on micro implant
To: "The Electronic Study Club for Orthodontics" <ESCO@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU>

I want to congratulate Dr Thomas on his analysis of micro implant marketing. I have looked at the concept for the past two years but have only found clinical reports in the literature. Is anybody aware of basic research on the concept?

Jean Marc Retrouvey

McGill University


From: "Don McLaughlin DDS" <>
To: "ESCO" <>
Subject: Minolta Dimage A1 intra oral photos
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 10:02:26 -0500

Calling all Minolta camera sages!  I have recently purchased a Minolta Dimage A1 camera.  I'm excited by its potential.  I've used the Yashica Dental Eye for years and have become accustomed to the "no brainer", pre set features of taking the intra oral photo without having to consider aperture setting, shutter speed etc.  I didn't like the short depth of field of the macro lens or the time nor effort required to process the film and then scan the photo to be digital ready.

I'm hoping that some of you that have already "been in the digital game"  can help shorten my learning curve.  My objective is to find the ideal camera settings that I can program into the camera to make the intra oral photo taking a no brainer for my assistants and myself.  I would also hope to accomplish this using the existing flash and eliminate the need for a lens mounted flash ring.

Is there anyone out there that has already found an effective group of settings with the A1 that is ring-flash less?

Thanks for your help,

Don McLaughlin Rutland, VT


From: "Azhar Kharsa" <>
Subject: Ad:YAG Laser after debonding
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 20:43:29 +0200

Dear Friends:

I'm preparing a research about using Ad:YAG laser, "wavelength=1.064 n.m"; as a potential substitution to conventional removing of monomer debris after debonding when fixed appliances are used. If anyone had practiced that ever, I'd be so thankful to hear from.

Thank you.

Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 01:06:18 -0500
From: "Leon Klempner" <>
Subject: Powerbook
To: "'The Electronic Study Club for Orthodontics'" <ESCO@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU>

I'm considering buying a powerbook mac for home use.  Has anyone tried running either invisalign clincheck or orthotrac office on a mac via “vitual pc” software?

Leon S. Klempner , D.D.S. , P.C.


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