Topics of the day:

1. Re: Custom Mouthguards
2. Re: Question concerning cement removal
3. Re: Question concerning cement removal
4. Re: Fuji on Ceramic Crowns
5. Automatic film processors
6. Transfer problem
7. Hin cap validity
8. ESCO - The Electronic Study Club for Orthodontics

 


Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 18:11:44 +0530
From: "Dr. Eliot Sakols" < eliot @esortho.com >
Subject: Re: Custom Mouthguards
To: "Huibi Liu" <hliu18@UIC.EDU>

THE PROBLEM WITH CUSTOMIZING IS THAT DURING  ORTHODONTIC TREATMENT, THE TEETH ARE CONSTANTLY MOVING AND THE OCCLUSION  IS CHANGING. THE ONLY "CUSTOM" TYPES ON THE MARKET ARE SOME WHICH CAN BE HEATED-IMPRINTED - REHEATED  AND REIMPRINTED -THROUGHOUT TREATMENT. THESE ARE AUKWARD AND DONT WORK GREAT  THEY AR DISTRIBUTED BY THE ORMCO CORP AN ALTERNATIVE IS THE ONE SIZE FITS ALL TYPE FOR ORTHO PATIENTS .ONE TYPE IS DISTRIBUTED BY THE BELT COMPANY IN NEVADA PHONE # 1 800 882 2977. GOOD LUCK

REGARDS
ELIOT SAKOLS, DDS, DMD
CHICAGO, IL

 


Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 18:11:44 +0530
From: "Dr. M.Jayaram" <koz_anchorag@sancharnet.in>
Subject: Re: Question Concerning Cement Removal
To: "Huibi Liu" <hliu18@UIC.EDU>
CC: Madyjules@aol.com, "The Electronic Study Club for Orthodontics" <ESCO@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU>

Dear Dr.Madeline Serrano & Group,                                                    

I have been using Brassler-Komet multi-fluted special burs for adhesive residue removal for the last so many years. They are kind on enamel and 'gingival friendly'(rounded tips) available long and short size(cutting length) with FG and non-FG. The catalogue numbers are as follows:*

1. H 22 AGK    204.016
2. H 22 AGK    314.016    (FG)
3. H 22 ALGK    204.016
4. H.22 ALGK    314.016    (FG)   

1 and 2 above are short ones and 3 and 4 are long ones. How about trying these out ?

Regards and Best wishes,
Dr. M.Jayaram.
Calicut. India.

* No financial/marketing interest whatsoever.

 


From: Walt1520@aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 14:21:03 EDT
Subject: Re: ESCO Digest - 1 Sep 2004 to 7 Sep 2004 (#2004-36)
To: ESCO@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU

I have found the same problem and do not have an answer. My suggestion is to contact 3M Unitek and ask them if they have suggestions.  Please share your information. 

Walter Buchsieb Sr. DDS,MS

 


Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 14:25:26 -0500
From: "Kevin Jarrell" <kjarrell@sprynet.com>
To: esco@listserv.uic.edu
Subject: Re: Fuji on ceramic crowns

In response to DRGSCOTT's posting on Fuji cement for bonding brackets to crowns, I used Fuji ortho self-cure and light-cure exclusively for several years and felt that it worked BETTER on crowns (metal or porcelain) than resin cement. This in addition to the simplicity of bonding with Fuji. Of course, some failures still occured, especially on porcelain, but we all know the difficulty of bonding to a non-enamel surface.

Kevin Jarrell
Kokomo, IN

 


From: "Ernest McCallum" <emccallum@emeraldis.com>
To: "The Electronic Study Club for Orthodontics" <ESCO@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU>
Subject: Automatic film processors
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:59:08 -0400

I am considering purchasing an automatic film processor for pans and cephs. I wanted to get some feedback from others on their experiences both positive and negative of various models. Please feel free to email me directly if you feel uncomfortable posting negative experiences to the list. I have been developing manually for nine years with good results, but I think the time has come to make the change. Just want to make an informed purchase. Thanks. ernest mccallum emccallum@emeraldis.com

 


Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 08:47:17 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Jérôme Wanono" <jeromewanono@yahoo.fr>
Subject: Transfer problem !
To: ESCO@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU

Dear Esco members,

What would you do in such a situation ? :

I'm buying an orthodontic office. The orthodontist working there is a certified orthodontist. But the quality of his diagnosis, treatment plan, and finally of course, treatment, is very poor. For example:

- he extracts lots of lower incisors, without considering the tooth mass or the initial overbite.

- he has a total loss of molar control, creating cross bites and so on.

- he extracts sometimes the lower 4's in severe class II, while crowding was minimal and with a light Spee…. and, in some full cusp class II cases, at 15 years or more, distallize the upper 6 and 7's… !

- brackets are very poorly placed.

- he finishes his cases with very poor occlusion, experiencing loss of anchorage, vertically and horizontally. Of course, some of his cases would finally need surgery.

Of course, I know you're all going to tell me : “don't buy it ! that's all ”.

Well, creating an office in my country (I live in Europe) is very difficult. And orthodontic practices for sale are very rare. I have been waiting more than one year to find one ! I'm 32 years old. I studied general dentistry for 6 years, practiced dentistry for 4 years, as an employee and finally went to Montreal for a 3 year ortho program.

So, as many of you, at the beginning of your carreer, I have nothing but debts, and can't wait for the time necessary for an office to be profitable.

So, here are the questions. ( Please, keep in mind I'm 32, and the selling ortho is 52, so for 90 % of the patients, I'm not as good as he is: that's like that in my country, believe me, nothing to do with a complex of inferiority….)

- How do I tell the patients, I need more time than initially stated, to finish the treatment well ? ( the selling ortho was promising many 18 months treatments !) I experienced that situation in an other office. Lots of people don't accept it and tell you “please, debond at the promised date”. They are surprised that the former ortho never told them something was going wrong. So they easily think you are incompetent, that's why treatment time is so long.

- How do I tell the worse patients, that they would need a surgery to finish well, when he never stated such a thing ?

Last thing to know is : in my country, 90 % of the lay people don't see anything when their treatment is poor. As far as the anterior teeth are aligned, they are happy. So this office is successful !

It seems to me that, telling theses kind of things to the patients, even being very very moderate and distant, could make me a very bad reputation. But do I have the choice ? What is you opinion ?

In advance, dear members, than you very much for your remarks and comments : they will be very appreciated.

Jérôme, DDS, Msc

 


Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:27:50 +0530
From: "Dr.Uday M. Wadadekar" <druday@vsnl.com>
Subject: Hin cap validity
To: ESCO@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU

Dear Sir,

What is recent trend in ortho about treatment of would be True mandibutar prognathism in mixed dentition with 1.Normal maxilla 2. Retrusive maxilla Chin cap therapy is still in Vouge ? if yes -WHY ? if NO - Why ?Kindly Advise.

Regards,
Dr.Uday
Wadadekar
www.druday.com

 


 

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