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1. Re: Damon Brackets
2. Re: Damon Brackets
3. Re: Damon Brackets
4. BTM conference, Nov 7-10, 2005
5. ESCO - The Electronic Study Club for Orthodontics


Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 0:33:07 -0400
To: "The Electronic Study Club for Orthodontics" <ESCO@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Damon Brackets
CC: "ESCO automatic digest system" <LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU>

Regarding the previous posting by Dr. Greg Scott, I cannot answer the question. The rebonding issue only deepens my dissatisfaction with the current Damon bracket. The composite material is very weak and reminds me of the mush that the old Spirit brackets would become near the end of treat just about the time you needed occasional torque control. The gates are exceedingly difficult to use and I have had the metal portion detach from the composite portion. I am mystified by popularity of what seems to be an overtly problematic bracket. I have certainly crossed that bracket off of my masochistic mechanics list.

Of course I could be wrong... I can already see those quivers being broken out as I type.

-Alex Cassinelli


----- Original Message -----

Wednesday, August 31, 2005 7:15 AM
Damon Brackets

Can anyone explain why Damon brackets cannot be re-bonded after micro-etching and why you have to isolate and etch every time.  It is the only bracket I know of that will not stay on with Fuji?  I have asked Ormco, but they want me to think I'm the only one with this problem. 

Dr. Greg Scott
Lakeland, FL


From: "Lively Orthodontics, P.A." <>
To: "The Electronic Study Club for Orthodontics" <ESCO@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Damon Brackets
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:27:15 -0400

Hey Greg:

I just had a meeting with their regional supervisor, Todd.  Claimed that most have no problem with brackets coming off.  His best buddy uses them and never has a problem with them.  We have spent thousands of dollars on rebonds (just the braces, not including chair time).  We will not use the D3 on anything but U3-3.  The rest fall off.  I too felt like I was the only one.  Two of my staff were working in one of the offices that was doing the beta testing for the D3 and said that it was a huge problem for them and they were surprised the brackets went to market.

No explanation was given to me.  We just ordered $2K worth of Damon2 U4s and U5s to restock our brackets as we have used most of them to rebond D3s on those teeth.  Also, they could not explain to me why Ormco felt it was necessary to change the mesh on their brackets, requiring their special BluGloo for bonding.  I thought that our profession had reached a point where mesh and bonding adhesives had met our expectations.  Why did they feel the need to change the mesh.  My problem is that I have done such a great job of hyping this system to the parents and dentists, I cannot change at this point.  Plus I have about 500 patients walking around with the Damon system in place.  Works great, just spend most of our time repairing rather than treating. 

I do microetch the D2 with wax over the door mechanism but we just throw away the D3 brackets when the fall off.  Usually, all the glue is on the tooth and nothing on the bracket.

Mark Lively


Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:04:56 EDT
Subject: Re: Damon Brackets

In my last post, I was referring to D2 metal brackets and not the D3.

G. Scott


From: Zeev Davidovitch [ ]
Subject: BTM conference, Nov 7-10, 2005
Date: Saturday, September 10, 2005 12:14 PM

Dear colleague:

The preparations for the 8 th international conference on the Biological Mechanisms of Tooth Eruption, Resorption, and Movement have been completed.

The conference will be held on November 7-10, 2005, at the Hilton Arcadia Resort and Spa, Phuket , Thailand .

Attached please find the conference's program.

If you are interested to attend this conference, please let me know, and I'll send you additional material pertaining to travel and accommodation arrangements.

Sincerely yours,
Ze'ev Davidovitch


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