Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:08:03 -0500
From: "ESCO automatic digest system" <LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU>
Subject: ESCO Digest - 7 Aug 2006 to 14 Aug 2006 (#2006-21)
There are 4 messages totalling 226 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Re: Tip-Edge
2. Re: Class II correction
3. Best camera
4. Re: Class II correction- Charlie


Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 16:34:18 EDT
From: KimMizrahi@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Tip-Edge

To Tip-Edge Practitioners,

I am delighted to hear such positive comments from experienced orthodontists. I have been using and teaching Begg and subsequently Tip-Edge for the last 40 odd years and I would not change to any other bracket. My only comment is that I find the Tip-Edge steel bracket absolutely a pleasure to work with, but the Tip-Edge ceramic is a nightmare. It delaminates from its base too frequently and the vertical channel gets blocked up very easily. I use the Tip-Edge plus ceramic bracket but I have not tried the deep slot, I still use the sidewinder springs. I look forward to your comments on the ceramic bracket.

Kim Mizrahi


Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 08:39:37 -0500
From: "Kevin Walde" <kwalde@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject: Re: Class II correction

Charlie, Just to clarify an earlier posting: You mentioned that Jay B(owman) called extracting only upper premolars for Class II treatment the "Devil's Choice". That term was actually coined by Lysle Johnston and it is a "tongue-in-cheek" remark. I can assure you that Jay doesn't really believe it and in fact prescribes it when he feels a patient will best be served by this choice.

Happy Trails,
Kevin Walde
Washington, MO


Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 19:46:03 +0530
From: "Dr. Mathan" <drmathan@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: best camera

hi this is Dr.M.G.Mathan from India I m doing junior resident ship in All India Institute Of Medical sciences in New Delhi India..Can you people please tell me which model and which company camera is good for orthodntic purpose..I m totally confused because my one friend is telling me to buy Canon EOS350 digital rebel XT and the Other is telling that canon IXUS That Is POWERSHOT 600SD is more than enough..u experianced people tell me what to buy thank you

Dr. Mathan.M.G


Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 08:13:09 EDT
From: "Dr. Robert W. Bruno" <Orthos68@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Class II correction- Charlie

Hi Charlie,

I have been using Tip-Edge ever since I stepped foot out of the doors of Columbia U., amazing results over the years, Thanks Dr. Meistrell! I remember asking Malcolm Meistrell during my residency (1989) as he was showing me a Class II case with a 1/2 mile of overjet resolved with Tip-Edge/elastics, "why don't more orthodontists use this technique and why do they even bother with head gear, palatal arches, nance appl. etc for anchorage, it makes no sense to me?" He hesitated, shrugged his shoulders and said, " I don't know." I still don't know why orthodontists even bother with all of the techniques you mentioned. I suppose compliance with rubber band wear could be a factor but most kids with moderate to severe overjet want to look better so the motivational factor kicks in. Even if I do not get good elastic compliance, I use Mulligan mechanics with anchor bends mesial to the molars and e--link modules from molar hooks to anterior circles on wire. Resolves overjet and corrects class II with no compliance from patient needed. You mentioned that you use a distal jet in mild OJ cases. Why don't you use Tip-Edge also? I also use a .016 niti underlay and 21x25SS or TMA, works well! Kudos to the Keslings! Regards!

Rob Bruno,
Manhasset, NY