Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 00:21:04 -0600
From: "ESCO automatic digest system" <LISTSERV@LISTSERV.UIC.EDU>
Subject: ESCO Digest - 5 Feb 2007 to 7 Feb 2007 (#2007-16)

There are 2 messages totalling 446 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

1. Various
2. Re: SureSmile Opinions


Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:35:06 -0500
From: "Barry Raphael" <drbarry@ALIGNMINE.COM>
Subject: Various

Dr. Mailankody,

A man who criticizes a man for the content of his speech is criticizing the person.  This is an open forum. Participate on any level you wish.  We are all happy to listen.  In my own study club we talk about everything, from the mundane to the esoteric.  Where else can you speak frankly with your collegues,  In fact, I am very proud that our profession has always had that type of institution.  I sit next to my closest “competitior” as a collegue each month and we help each other out – not for base and selfish reasons – but for the sake of the patient and the betterment of the profession.  And now look. I am a part of community that is as large as our world, speaking of the issues near and dear to us.  If you want to keep polititcs and religion out of it, fine.  But concerning orthodontics, anything goes.

Mark, Tell us more about your effort with SureSmile.  Your longwindedness is never too long if it saves us from a longer futile adventure.  Tell me, are the brackets custom made or do they have custom bases in composite?  If the latter, how well do they hold?

Roy , I wouldn't pretend to correct 7mm with Aligners.  But I just treatment planned a case with molars rotated to Class II, with lingual cusps pretty much Cl I.  Not really a problem for aligners if you have good retention or good attachments.  But by the time the molars are rotated, the premolars and canines retracted and the overjet reduced,  the entire upper arch has moved distally.  I believe this is actually MORE possible, or at least AS possible to do with aligners as it is with fixed since the intraarch anchorage with aligners is so good.  But in the end, there must be a price to pay in anchorage, and since headgear is out of the question, interarch elastics is the stopgap.

Barry Raphael

Clifton, NJ


Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 22:11:36 -0500
From: "Jean Marc retrouvey" <jmretrouvey@VIDEOTRON.CA>
Subject: Re: SureSmile Opinions

I appreciated Mark Belland'comment on the use of “advanced” technology to treat orthodontic cases. It seems now that you need very complicated technology to bond brackets, select wires and apply biomechanical principles to even the most common orthodontic problem. I have attended a large number of conferences where great clinicians were showing outstanding results using their skills, sound biomechanical principles and hard work without resorting to “leading edge” computer assisted techniques.

Seems to me that technology companies are pushing products that may be of little value to the final result considering the amount of time needed to gain full benefit from their use.

Jean Marc Retrouvey