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Daily Digest Archive for November 19, 2003

Q: (Initially posted November 14, 2003) FROM MEMBER YUNJI K. IN IL
Hello. I am starting my first year of college and one of the "fun" things that we get to do is pick classes. Even though I am a theater major, I am very much interested in science (geology, archeology, paleontology, forensic, genetic, etc). One problem is, I don't want to jeopardize my GPA by taking these classes. If the "grade" factor is not there, I would take all the science classes that I want. I know it sounds funny, but is there any advice that you can give me so I could get the courage to take those classes?

November 19, 2003
A: FROM MENTOR AMY MCMILLAN IN NY
Yunji, I was a double major in theater and zoology for a while - I ended up
with the zoology degree because I actually found I liked it better - even
though I thought I liked theater better when I started. I was personally
never terrifically concerned about grades - I thought it was way more
important to do what I wanted to do! I didn't end college with a 4.0 and it
made no difference in the end. What got noticed after (and during) my time
as an undergraduate were the other things I did - perform in several plays
and musicals, participate in research with a professor, write papers and
grants. I found I couldn't do both majors as I got into my junior and
senior year because they both demand a lot of time. Start with some of the
intro courses in the sciences and see how you like them - you probably have
to take some science anyway! AND keep your mind open about what you want to
do with your life. Work hard for good grades but don't let grades keep you
from taking what you like (and don't listen to what other theater majors
tell you about the sciences!!!)
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A: FROM MENTOR KAREN PELLETIER IN MA
Hello Yunjik, One of the most important parts of learning is to remember that you are learning. Taking on new subjects and subject areas is important to growing your knowledge base. Any motivation to support learning will assist in the learning factor. If you are interested in science then you will want to read, interpret, ask questions, memorize the information and retain it to use later. The result like any of your courses is a high GPA accume. I realize right now the only important goal in front of you is your GPA. That is a short-term goal. What is the next step? Could a career, job, or occupation be on the horizon? If so do you anticipate that the interviewer will be concerned with your GPA. If yes than study diligently in the sciences, ask for assistance, and go to as many support workshops as you can to aid in your science GPA. Do you anticipate the position you are interviewing for to require scientific knowledge or thinking? Most of my tasks require problem solving or inquiry thinking. Two major lessons implied in learning sciences. These techniques and strategies can be applied to many aspects of your life. As a theater major with high aspirations, learning Kinesiology (The study of the anatomy, physiology, and mechanics of body movement, especially in humans.) would be valuable. Theater involves emotion and drama. I am sure Psychology (The science that deals with mental processes and behavior.) could also be a critical skill to have. Who knows science may add a whole new dimension to your theatrical repertoire.

Hope you take lots of science courses and enjoy the exploration, Karen
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November 18, 2003
A: FROM MENTOR CHARLENE CASSIDY IN SC
If you are really interested in taking some of these classes, talk to an advisor about auditing a class. If memory serves me correctly, when you audit a class, you are not responsible for completing class assignments and/or taking exams for a grade. You may be required to do something to prove to the professor that you attended class and grasped the subject matter. I think audited classes are included in official transcripts.

If you find after auditing a class you are comfortable with your abilities, perhaps you can take others for credit.

Best of luck.
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A: FROM MENTOR LYNN FRASER IN NEVADA
When you are interviewing for your first job after college, your
potential employer will look at your ENTIRE transcript, not just your bottom
line GPA. Having interests outside of your major and the courage to pursue
these even though they may be difficult should demonstrate to your potential
employer that you are an determined and inquisitive person which are likely
qualities that will impress them. Taking these classes will also give you an
alternative approach to learning and problem solving that will be very
beneficial to you when you get into a real work environment, and of course
will help you cultivate a hobby you can pursue your whole life. Also if you
are really worried about how your GPA looks you can seperate out your GPA on
your resume to include your "major GPA" and "overall GPA" - my college
actually calculated these two separate GPA's on the transcripts we showed to
potential employers. So go for it - this is the only time in your life
you'll have such a great opportunity to learn what you want to learn, and it
will only benefit you later on.
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A: FROM MENTOR KRISTIN TAGHON IN IL
Hi, Yunji,
I understand your concern. I think you need to take at least one of these
classes a semester. Do not take alot. I say this more from the standpoint of
really enjoying and learning. It's very hard to take alot of science and really
retain all that knowledge. It would become more of a chore, than an enjoyment
for you. And you wouldn't really be able to focus and learn it all. You can
take 1-2 Science classees (and speak to a counselor to decide which ones would
be good to take first, and/or together) and still be able to maintain a good GPA
and learn the content of the classes. You should not take classes JUST to
maintain a GPA. You should also be taking classes that will help you in life.
You may find that you want to change majors or have a double or a minor. Good
luck!!

Kristin Taghon

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A: FROM MENTOR LESLIE WAITE IN CA
Hi Yunji!
This is a very interesting question! I am begging you- please don't
avoid science (or any classes) that you are interested in just
because you worry about your grade!
I think that the first thing that you need to consider is where your
GPA "needs to be" and how you decide that. Do you have plans for
after college that require a high GPA? Are you worried that your
ability to find a job after college will be hurt if you do not have a
4.0? In other words, think in very specific terms about why you need
a high GPA, and exactly how high it really needs to be to achieve
your goals. Make sure you get expert opinions from counselors and
department heads so that you know where your GPA really needs to be
to move on to your next step. If you have set your standards for your
GPA higher than necessary, you could be missing out on some great
classes because of incorrect assumptions, and that would be a shame.
Depending on what your circumstances are, there are a few things to
consider about GPA. Remember that when it comes to college GPA,
people will usually be looking at more than JUST the GPA number
itself. Many companies will be looking at how you did in the classes
that are relevant to them. So if you are going to be doing something
in theatre, they will focus on your theatre classes and how you
performed in them, not how you did in astronomy.
If you are considering graduate school or medical school, these too
frequently focus on how you did in classes in the field that you are
applying to study, and will forgive some lower grades in other
courses, especially tough courses like science. Even in places where
your overall GPA will be looked at, they still frequently consider
how difficult your courses were. Someone who took tough courses and
had a 3.7 GPA might be considered a better candidate than someone who
took easier courses and had a 4.0 GPA. So avoiding classes that you
don't think you can get an excellent grade in can actually work
against you.

It could be that you have very good reasons for needing to maintain a
high GPA. If this is the case, and you are really interested in
science, I would look for science courses that are designed for
non-majors. These classes are usually less intense, and take into
account that you are not trying to make a future career out of the
subject. You will also not be competing for grades against people who
DO want to make science their life, which can help.
You can also consider taking classes pass-fail. At many Universities
these are not figured into your GPA, and people who will be looking
at your transcripts later will understand that you took these courses
out of interest, not necessity, so it should not count against you.
In fact, it can frequently count in your favor that you had so many
different interests and pursued them!
Finally, if you are REALLY worried about your GPA, consider taking
science classes at a local community college during the summer. These
won't go on your college transcripts unless you specifically request
them to, and they won't be tallied into your GPA for your University
at all. I have taken a few courses at community colleges, and they
have been very well-taught and very enjoyable.

I took a LOT of classes in college that were "just for fun"-Spanish,
English Literature, Endocrinology. My college experience was so much
richer because of this diversity in my education. Please don't miss
out on the chance to experience all that you can and follow your
interests while you are school. You will thank yourself for it later.

Good luck!
Leslie

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A: FROM MENTOR AIMEE WILLOZ IN MN
I'd recommend either auditing the classes or taking them pass/fail, if
that's an option. At the college I went to, we had both options for taking
some classes (not required ones, of course!). I think it's great that you
have such wide interests. Take all the classes you want and have a great
time!
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