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Daily Digest Archive for May 26, 2004

Q: FROM STUDENT MEMBER ROBIN B. IN CA
Recently, a group of scientists and Nobel laureates wrote in an open
letter to the US government that scientific and medical research and
opinions were being wrongfully smothered and hindered by governmental
administrations. Has anyone felt this themselves (if you have please tell
about it), or have any opinions on the subject?

May 26, 2004
A: FROM MENTOR LESLIE WAITE IN CA
Hi Robin!
This policy has been a problem where I work (the University of
California San Francisco), because much of the "smothering" of
research has been targeted at research projects designed to
understand the risk factors for transmission of HIV/AIDS and the
effectiveness of prevention programs in people who are at risk....

Why I believe these policies are dangerous is because it limits
scientific freedom, and scientific freedom is absolutely necessary
for successful research.
You may not realize it, but the US is the best place to do biomedical
research in the world, bar none. People come from all over the world
to train here, and in fact in some countries, if you want to get a
job at a University running a research lab, you must first get
training in a US lab to qualify. Even our "average" institutions are
far better than the best institutions in many countries when it comes
to quality of science. A big reason for this is that our government
has been willing to put a large amount of money towards biomedical
research, and at the same time has been willing to let scientists,
not politicians, decide how this money should be spent. While this
system is not perfect, it does have the general effect of promoting
excellent science and allowing great progress in understanding,
preventing, treating and curing diseases. It is no accident that most
winners of the Nobel Prize in Medicine for the past several decades
have been from the US or have worked in US labs....

... it is important to understand how science money is awarded.
The NIH assesses requests for money based on scientific merit. The
NIH is made up of several institutes, each of which have a pot of
money to award. Even in the "easiest" institutes, over 70% of the
requests for money are denied, because they are not considered to be
of good enough scientific quality. In some institutes, as many as 80%
of the requests for money are denied. IT IS NOT EASY TO GET MONEY
FROM NIH!!
So when someone actually DOES succeed in getting money from NIH for a
research project, it can be assumed that it is a well-planned,
necessary project that will help our understanding of disease if
successful.

For the excellent researchers here at UCSF, it has been difficult to
deal with some of the limitations that have been placed on them AFTER
they have been approved for funding from NIH, or when they submit
their requests to NIH. ... Some who have been awarded NIH money have
been requested to re-justify why their research is important
scientifically, when they have already done this in their grants.

I think there are a few problems that researchers targeted by these
policies have with this extra scrutiny. The first is that it ignores
the bigger picture of preventing disease and focuses instead on who
is getting the disease. This implies that some people are not worth
as much as others. In other words, these policies imply that good
moral people who get a disease deserve to be saved more than bad
immoral people who get a disease. The second problem is- who gets to
decide what is good and what is bad? Today it is HIV, but are we
going to stop researching lung cancer tomorrow because it mainly
affects smokers, and everyone knows that smoking is dangerous and
they shouldn't smoke? Are we going to stop studying heart disease in
obese people because they should be better in control of their eating
habits? Where does it stop, and who gets to decide?

We have a pretty good system right now. We decide who gets money
based on who can do the best science and make the most progress
towards understanding disease. Using this standard, we have built
ourselves the best research system in the world. Other countries
(especially those who use political and moral standards to award
research) have not done as well. It is important that we keep
shifting political beliefs out of the scientific process, or we will
lose our quality research programs here.

Feel free to ask follow up questions about how these policies affect
researchers- I can ask colleagues here how they have been affected
directly if you wish, because as I mentioned before, a number of
people I work with have been directly affected by these policies.
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May 24, 2004
A: FROM MENTOR DEBORAH GRUBBE IN DE
There are many times that scientists and engineers need to insert
themselves into the political process. Opinions are like noses, everybody has one.
The key thing is to understand where YOUR opinions are and WHY. In my work
in advising the US Government, I have seen federal employees embrace, use
and welcome the views and opinions of external experts. While I am sure that
some folks have felt slighted from time to time, one has to look at the
subject matter at hand, and its importance to the issues of the day. You
can always complain in life that people are not listening to you. The
challenge is to be diligent in being certain that you are communicating
clearly.
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A: FROM MENTOR JOAN LUSK IN RI
...when scientific consensus is ignored the whole scientific process is corrupted.
Consensus can be challenged with new evidence and new theories, but
to ignore evidence for political purposes is not right. In the long
run it will do harm - just as imposing Lysenkoism in the USSR damaged
Soviet biology and agriculture.
...
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A: FROM MENTOR KRISTIN TAGHON IN IL
Hi, Robin,

Many people feel that the regulations that the government mandates for research
smothers research. An example of this is the regulations for use of embryos in
research for curing diseases or genetic problems. Another would be the FDA
regulations on drugs and sometimes the delay in approving drugs for use in the
U.S.. Sometimes, even approval to continue research on a particular drug is
denied.

... Also, if the pharmaceutical industry were not strictly regulated, some people feel that the companies that make them may take liberties to make lower quality drugs. Perhaps money
received from the government would be better used elsewhere if the research has
not progressed on some drugs to show that the drug will work. The problem is,
government agencies that review the research don't have enough people to review
all the research going on in a timely manner.

I know that this has happened even in the cellular phone industry. The
standards used by companies to provide wireless service has to be approved by
the government. Because they are so far behind and do not have enough people to
review the technologies, approval for the standards are delayed and production
of the equipment that would use this new technology cannot begin. And the sale
of the technology cannot even happen in the U.S. That is why technology often
grows faster in Europe. The governments there embrace technology and are not as
strict with the regulations. This is bad for U.S. companies because they have
to sell their product in Europe, and Europe typically wants to buy from their own
companies. So, the U.S. then has to make deals to create employment in those
countries in order to sell products there. So, two problems come from this:
Technology comes slower to the U.S. and jobs go overseas.

Some feel that less government regulation or to privatize regulation is the
answer.

Thanks for your question, Robin!



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