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Daily Digest Archive for August 31, 2004

Q: (Initially posted August 27, 2004) FROM GEM-SET Moderators
The question of the month for August focuses on negotiating a salary when you are hired. Mentors-did you negotiate when you were first hired for your first job? Were you offered the job at higher pay than initially offered? What are some negotiating techniques that have worked for you?

August 31, 2004
A: FROM MENTOR JO ELLEN HINCK IN MO
I did negotiate when I was hired for my first job at a salary higher than
initially offered. One of the most important tools you can have in this
situation is knowledge. Do some research and see what salaries are with
the education and experience you have (I found this info searching the
web). One thing I immediately noticed was the gender bias in pay in the
private industry. Women's salaries were several thousands less than men's
salaries - but don't let that discourage you. The company I was applying
at offered me several thousand less than the average salary for that
position with my experience and education. I told the employer these
circumstances and they counter offered a higher salary. One thing is for
sure - it doesn't hurt to ask - they won't give you more money if you
don't ask for it!
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A: FROM MENTOR JOAN LUSK IN RI
I've never really negotiated... my first job as an Assistant
Professor, I took what was offered and figured that I could just
barely begin to set up a lab with the start-up funds. Soon
afterward, a brash friend of a friend asked my starting salary, and
before I figured out exactly how I wanted to reply he added, "It
shouldn't be a penny less than $11,000!" And $11,000 was precisely
the amount. This was 1972.

When I made a lateral move in 1988 into the university administration
I did negotiate a 10% raise, arguing that I was going to be working a
lot harder. That turned out to be true. Now that I'm moving back
into the faculty I lost some pay, going from a nominal 10-month
appointment to 9 month - though I've always worked more than these
nominal amounts.
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A: FROM MENTOR AIMEE WILLOZ IN MN
I didn't negotiate a higher salary for my first job. I'm not sure if I
would have gotten a higher salary if I had. I do know that I had a higher
starting salary than some of my co-workers who started at the same time,
because I had a Master's degree. I've switched companies a few times, and
that has made a big difference in my income. Looking back, I didn't feel
comfortable negotiating right out of school, but I probably could have
negotiated at some later job changes if I'd wanted to. I've felt
comfortable with my salary all along - from what I know, it's commensurate
with my male co-worker's salaries.

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